Northeastern Artifacts

[mbrown1833]

why are there very few guys on here from north of va? and why so many from the deep south? could i be getting into a philosophical question?

[Dennis]

Good question and waiting for answers. But its nice that the only boot tracks I find where I hunt are my own.

[cgode]

Yea' its pretty lonely up here!......hunting here is difficult at best with the population density and loss of most of the farms. Waaayyyy too many people and too few places to hunt.

[eddies]

they call cleveland the north cost of the usa.

[mbrown1833]

yeah farmers certainly are getting top dollar for their land. luckily here in jersey they implemented a farmland preservation program and its done very well around where i am and has saved many, many farms and given farmers serious cash for their land- if they are successful through applications.

[cgode]

Yup, most farms here have become sub-divisions some with 1/4 or 1/2 acre lots.....the Texas guys kill me....saying they have a small parcel of land which translates into 100 acres or more....lots more!....a 10 acre piece of privately owned land in my neck of the woods is not only huge but almost unheard of.....I am very much envious of you Tx. guys, believe me!
To add to the difficulties here, at least from a paleo site point of view, the water level of the ocean was much much lower due to so much of it being tied up in glaciers.....as they continued to melt the ocean levels rose submersing valuable paleo sites under a whole lot of water....that is why, in part, there are very few paleo sites here.

I went to an archeological meet/greet event last year which was cool because you could bring your stuff and have the pro's look it over....it was the first one I had heard of in a loooong looong time here....quite a few people showed up with artifacts so there are people hunting here....unfortunately, this is the north east and people here are not all that friendly....I can say that because I've lived here all my life....and nobody wanted to say boo about where they hunt or even engauge in a conversation.
I've been down south and WOW....what a difference...people for the most part where very friendly and kind, it was quite refreshing to say the least.

[marksimerson]

We have lots of land to hunt up here but the trick is getting permission for the better spots. Just not alot of artifacts up here. The only good thing is very little hunting pressure.

[Mud Hawk]

I cannot get permission to hunt a bordering field to where I hunt. Good neighbor both ways... but doesnt want ANYONE on his land. He has supposedly found a blade but "cant find it" and has also told us there are still the Old border markers for New York running in his property (NW PA).

Lesson? Yeah it is touchy around here. You have to respect it either way though. I am not jaded, I still send him a bottle of some home brew or pick up his trash cans off the road when winds are huffin'.

[mbrown1833]

it is a shame. i know of one other man in my area who collects and walks the same beach as i. what a pleasant man he is. i find it interesting the arrogance that has become accustomed to the northeast. i'm not quite sure what has sparked this cowboy-like ode to being. regardless, i enjoy what i do when i get the opportunity to do it.
however, cgode, this fellow and i both have found fluted points- both jasper. it's hard to come by valuable points, but with the recent dredging projects in the river we've been finding older pieces made of sandstones. i actually find them to be inferior just because of the occasional jasper pieces people like him and i are finding. but i'm beginning to appreciate the lesser quality pieces which are truly accustomed to our area. without caches of exceptionally hard stones, the seemingly only way to produce those pieces would be to acquire such stone through trading. when they're found it is a blessing. i have to admit i well-up when they occur. but anyway, yes, the northeast is full of very intelligent beings who are easily understood to anyone else to be arrogant or self-righteous. i consider myself lucky to have gotten around the country and to somewhat understand this phenomenon at a relatively young age.

ps- where are you in connecticut? i attend school in dutchess county, ny.

[cgode]

mbrown, post some pics of those fluted points, I would love to see them....heck, post up some pics of any of your finds.
I'm located in southern Ct. right on the shoreline pretty much smack dab in the middle between NY and RI.....New Haven/Middlesex county line....if you ever get a chance we'll have to hook up and do some hunting together.