new to hunting

[grandrondeboy]

hi I live in oregon along the columbia river my father has hunted arrowheads for a long time with many finds i am new and was wondering if anyone could help. my dad usually finds along the beach of the columbia but ive heard some talk of finding camps that indians may have used and finding burnt stones, is this true and how to i find these camps any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah found two today along sauvies island beach real small but still intact dad found 4.

thanks

[karatekid069]

Welcome! I am also new to the game. I am not to familiar with the Columbia river area but in my opinion finding burnt stones in and of itself is not an indicator of a camp. I think of all the people around there over the years there have probably been a lot of camp fires. If you find worked stone and burnt stone then you could possibly have a camp. In my opinion you would want to find something else to correlate with the burnt stone. To find camps in my experience takes a lot of legwork both literally and figuratively speaking. Some of the camps I have found other people have told me about, while others I have found from just walking around and exploring. You should post pics of what you found, would love to see some points from that area! It looks to be a pretty rich area.
p.s. found this browsing around and was wondering if you had ever been to the museum? It's a shame he is selling it off. FYI the web address the guys gives in the posting is wrong its www.columbiariverman.com
COLUMBIA RIVER ART & ARTIFACTS COLLECTION

[comanche]

Welcome,,,You will find that the western seaboard people are very knowledgeable,and seem to be pretty tight.I personally like the obsidian points and look forward to seeing some of your finds !/comanche

[TeamHenry]

Welcome to the fire.

[tomclark]

Man, be careful and know your laws up there, especially if you are gonna post about it. Nuff said/Just Sayin'.

[grandrondeboy]

from what i understand its only against the law to take native american artifacts from burial sites

[karatekid069]

Here is a brief excerpt of ORS chapter 358
for the full thing go here
http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/358.html I would start at 358.905 and read from there

358.920 Prohibited conduct; exception; penalty. (1)(a) A person may not excavate, injure, destroy or alter an archaeological site or object or remove an archaeological object located on public or private lands in Oregon unless that activity is authorized by a permit issued under ORS 390.235.

(b) Collection of an arrowhead from the surface of public or private land is permitted if collection can be accomplished without the use of any tool.

(c) It is prima facie evidence of a violation of this section if:

(A) A person possesses the objects described in paragraph (a) of this subsection;

(B) A person possesses any tool that could be used to remove such objects from the ground; and

(C) A person does not possess a permit required under ORS 390.235.

(2) A person may not sell, purchase, trade, barter or exchange or offer to sell, purchase, trade, barter or exchange any archaeological object that has been removed from an archaeological site on public land or obtained from private land within the State of Oregon without the written permission of the landowner.

For more info I have a legal page at Sign In to ArrowHeadZ - ArrowHeadZ (well I guess it won't let you look unless you sign-up?)

one more thing, here is a page saying that rivers and lakes up until the high water mark is owned by the state (hence legal to hunt). 274.015 and on
http://landru.leg.state.or.us/ors/274.html

there are exceptions like parks and stuff like that, just do your research and you will be fine =)

[Mojave]

Originally Posted by karatekid069

...or private lands in Oregon

Directly from the People's Republic of Oregon.

It looks like they don't have a problem with surface collecting on public land, even though that is a contradiction with federal law.
Oh well, I'm sure a lively debate will ensue.

Anyways,...I'd love to see some pics.

[ShowmeMoflint]

Welcome from a seasoned artifact hunter who lives in east central Missouri

[Trask]

GrandeRonde, your not from GrandeRonde are you? In any case.. Welcome from Astoria. Just was up around Cathlamet today on business but managed to wander a bit along the river. As far as Sauvies goes, anything there is gonna be hard to find undisturbed ground..the evidence of camps should for the most part be long buried there.
There are obvious signs on the coast of encampments..Middens or shell mounds are one very obvious indicator that remains in view for the sharp eye. I am getting to be able to spot the "burned and broken" cooking stones pretty quickly and they almost always are in the company of lithic scatter or stone chippings. Look at the mouth of any small tributary of the Columbia River or signifigant geography..Like bluffs or headlands, large oxbows or bends..(hint Trojan point park to Scapoose )Do lots of reading. Start with Lewis & Clarks Journals they have maps of camps at Kalama area ect..It won't look much the same today but it gives you a Template to begin from as far as geographic characteristics are concerned. The Library still open? Go there... chances are there is a nice lady who can give you an arm full of books.. even historic photos of your chosen areas and the Native histories of them. People love to see young people interested in anything of studious value and not video based...Trust me they will welcome you with open arms...As would your local historical society and museum.
Just be tactful in your asking..be honest and tell them your interested in the history and Native Americans of your area..just don't continue on by telling them "because I wanna dig up an Indian Camp"