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Old 07-27-2011, 08:55 PM
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Castrovilles are not what this thread referred too! It was a later time small bird point thread! I do not believe Toya Phase would shoot Castros!?????
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:49 PM
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just to clarify, I didnt mean that the ONLY use was by kids, and I didnt mean only kids shot each other with them. Point is we are probably all right over all these thousands of years they've probably been used for everything mentioned at one time. Heck my grandpa and his brothers hunted each other with .22's when they were kids for fun LOL, dumb, but could happen. I still use a butterknife for a screwdriver from time to time too.
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Old 07-28-2011, 08:16 AM
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Heck my grandpa and his brothers hunted each other with .22's when they were kids for fun LOL, dumb, but could happen..
What? Yer full of it!
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Old 07-28-2011, 08:30 AM
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I'm a bow hunter, and have been doing it since i was fifteen. I believe the smaller points would have shot faster, and way more accurate than the bigger ones, The weight of the point affects the flight alot. I shoot 100 grain points, i could screw on a 125 grain point and it would shoot way off. So just guessing i would think you could get the weight ratio alot closer on smaller points than you could larger ones. We shoot for fun, and sum good ole deer meat. And they shot to live. Not to mention the smaller point is gonna fly way faster and more than likely go threw the deer leaving a good blood trail, and the animal will bleed out faster. Just a opinion.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:37 PM
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.22s to hunt each other? Really??????? Ha, I got you this time sucker!! Boom! Maybe BB guns, but 22s are not toys, and I believe birdpoints were not toys!! Maybe I'm way off here, but I doubt it!
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:54 PM
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The natives could actually run healthy deer to death (in a well documented tag team fashion) so there's no doubt they could retrieve one wounded with a tiny arrow, whether it was flint tipped or fire hardened.

We find lots of tiny points mixed in with buffalo bones. Often there are several. Seem to be lots more buffalo bones than deer bones.

I don't think todays 60# compound bow rules apply to primitive long bows used by skilled natives.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:28 PM
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based on my finds and the game that was here to hunt for the last thousand years i have to say the small point is alot more effective then some of you are giving it credit for, i personally think the main reason for smaller projectile points was just to split the hide allowing the shaft to penatrate deep
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:02 AM
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When I worked on the King Ranch I seen plenty if bird points found in the coastal dunes and roads! I always thought the Karankawa tribes would have used small birds to kill everything from deer, birds, fish, stingrays, etc. And they did! Small tipped arrows would have been ideal for there survival, including warfare!
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:12 PM
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Maybe I should keep my mouth shut but Mr. Crain I don't believe for a second any human or groupe of humans has ever ran an North American Whitetail to death. Maybe an old Mule Deer on the salt flats.
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:38 PM
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these are small as you can see , i dont know if they qualify as micro, all are from missouri
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