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[flintseeker]

Hello,

Seller called this fella a kirk. I'm not an expert in typology yet, but wouldn't this be a lost lake? From Shelby County, KY.

Is this patinated carter cave, hornstone or sonora, perhaps?

Please help, what do you think?

[marksimerson]

Looks like Dover. Kirk?

[flintseeker]

I need to get better daytime shots. There's a few honest dings on the side that clearly show a darker gray, almost hornstone like color.

I will try and take some better pics tomorrow.

So, you are thinking a kirk vs. a lost lake?

[marksimerson]

Lost lake would be beveled on opposite sides. Natural light is the best way to get the true color.

[flintseeker]

Good to know, thank you.

[CDEAN]

I'm pretty sure the material is Fort Payne. And yeah, it looks like a Lost Lake to me.

[StonedAge]

i think all lost lakes have opposite edge beveling, not sure.

[Steve Valentine]

Most all Lost Lakes will show beveling from resharpenings. But if it's a first stage Lost Lake it won't show any beveling. I have one that I found in Greenup county Ky that hasn't had any resharpenings yet, so it doesn't show any beveling and I am certain it's a Lost Lake.

This piece could very well be a Lost Lake and then again it could be a Kirk Corner Notch Point. They are both from basically the same time period and are very similar in design.

Here is my Lost Lake that is a first stage and has never been resharpened. It has heavy grinding on the base and the typical Punch Notching that is a trait of Lost Lake Points. Flintseekers Point looks very similar to mine. The only drawback I see to flintseekers Point is the size. My Lost Lake is well over 3 inches long and unless his hands are huge that piece is probably under or right 2 inches and most true Lost Lakes are bigger than that. Any Lost Lake I have seen that small has been very heavily resharpened and sharply beveled.

[comanche]

Totally Agree with Steve.
I would say Kirk////c

[flintseeker]

Originally Posted by Steve Valentine

Most all Lost Lakes will show beveling from resharpenings. But if it's a first stage Lost Lake it won't show any beveling. I have one that I found in Greenup county Ky that hasn't had any resharpenings yet, so it doesn't show any beveling and I am certain it's a Lost Lake.

This piece could very well be a Lost Lake and then again it could be a Kirk Corner Notch Point. They are both from basically the same time period and are very similar in design.

Here is my Lost Lake that is a first stage and has never been resharpened. It has heavy grinding on the base and the typical Punch Notching that is a trait of Lost Lake Points. Flintseekers Point looks very similar to mine. The only drawback I see to flintseekers Point is the size. My Lost Lake is well over 3 inches long and unless his hands are huge that piece is probably under or right 2 inches and most true Lost Lakes are bigger than that. Any Lost Lake I have seen that small has been very heavily resharpened and sharply beveled.

Steve, thanks very much for the detailed response. I absolutely LOVE your piece...

Thanks for everyone else's input, as well!

I guess I do have big hands, lol... It measures in at just over 3 inches.