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Old 12-31-2010, 06:09 PM
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Hasketts near Portland Oregon?

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Here is a link to some current research being conducted in the Willamette Valley. There are two possible Haskett points and a Windust. If they are in fact Haskett points this would be an interesting development as I am unaware of any Haskett types being found that far NW. From the sheer number, variety and great time span (10,000BP-50,000BP) of Pleistocene faunal remains being found in the area I'm inclined to believe there is a good chance they may find an in situ cultural component associated with the Pleistocene faunal remains at some future date. To see the artifacts follow the link, click photo albums, then artifacts.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:36 PM
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Haskett points are pretty easy to ID but sometimes difficult by pictures alone. Those could be but I'd be inclined to say they are Western Stemmed (Lake Mojave.)
There have been many spectacular Hasketts found in British Columbia. Someone posted one on another site about a year ago. I'm not sure I saved a picture of it or not. I'll look when I get a chance.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:13 PM
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I agree it’s not always easy to draw firm conclusions from a picture and they state it’s reworked which makes me think they mean by another culture. It seems highly likely there are Paleo sites deeply buried in the Willamette Valley and I hope they find something exciting there in the future. I’d love to hear about Haskett points found in BC or anywhere else outside the Great Basin. I did see the recent El Jobo/Haskett comparison post and it got my mind a wondering, which for me is what makes Amateur Archaeology and participating here at Arrowheadology so much fun.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:28 AM
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I couldn't find pics of the points in question in your link. Most professionals will claim that Haskett and Windust points are limited to the Northwest Great Basin. From personal experience I'm almost 100% sure both types are found all over the Great Basin. I'm not saying they are common everywhere but I believe the people making these points got around more than a lot of people think. I believe the same groups of paleo-indians that inhabited the Great Basin also at one point inhabited British Columbia. Portland falls in between these two areas. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if a Haskett turns up in that area on rare occasions.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:48 AM
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Arrow, try this link:
Artifact Gallery | Yamhill River Pleistocene Project

I have four Hasketts that I had X-ray sourced by Dr. Shackley at Cal-Berkeley. They were quarried at Saline Range 1 and Saline Range 2 in California, Obsidian Butte, NV, and Tempiute Mtn, NV.
All those sources are in what I would consider the southern Great Basin.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:58 AM
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Arrow, try this link:
Artifact Gallery | Yamhill River Pleistocene Project

I have four Hasketts that I had X-ray sourced by Dr. Shackley at Cal-Berkeley. They were quarried at Saline Range 1 and Saline Range 2 in California, Obsidian Butte, NV, and Tempiute Mtn, NV.
All those sources are in what I would consider the southern Great Basin.
Thanks for the pic link. Those do look like Mojaves, but it's hard to know for sure without handling them. There was a Haskett site found in Northern Utah on the Bonneville Basin. All (or most?) of the Hasketts were made from obsidian. The obsidian was sourced to the Wildhorse Canyon source which is near Milford Utah which is in the very southeastern corner of the Great Basin. The people making those points got around!
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Hasketts in Washington State: Testing at site 45KT1362, located near Priest Rapids in Washington, revealed Haskett-like projectile points that were dated to between 11,000 and 12,000 B.P. (Gough 1999).

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Old 01-01-2011, 03:18 PM
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I would not put a lot stock into that "Yamhill River Pleistocene" website regarding artifact typology assignments/classifications. I recognize a few of the key players on the website - all good people. It is my understanding the artifacts are all surface finds that have been recovered while searching for fossils along the Yamhill River.

They credit Doc. Stenger as helping with projectile point identification. Her specific vocation in archaeology is the study of Asian Ceramics (not NW Prehistoric Stone Tools). Stenger is the site director for Pleistocene/Holocene megafuna excavations at Woodburn OR with students from Portland Community College.

Hasketts in Washington State: Testing at site 45KT1362, located near Priest Rapids in Washington, revealed Haskett-like projectile points that were dated to between 11,000 and 12,000 B.P. (Gough 1999).
From Western cordillera and adjacent areas By Terry W. Swanson dates relevant to Hasketts are in RCYBP. Are your numbers in Calendar?:

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Thanks for all the informative posts. I couldn’t tell much from the pictures and since I haven’t been aware (prior to this thread)of Haskett points being found outside the Great Basin I thought it was worth getting some opinions and pointing out the current research if people weren’t already aware of it. Thanks again!
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:55 PM
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Ha!

John... slap my hand. I may have misquoted when paraphrasing the citation related to the Yakima Training Center excavations in Washington State. Here is the exact copy
(Overview for the Priest Rapids Hydroelectric Generation Project.pdf):

Recent testing at site 45KT1362, located in proximity to the Priest Rapids Project, revealed cultural materials overlying a Glacier Peak and Mount St. Helens set J tephra couplet dating between 11,000 and 12,000 B.P. (Gough 1999). Dense concentrations of chipped +stone implements, including Haskett-like projectile points, lithic debitage and cores associated with elk and bison remains were recovered. The deposit that also contains a distinct occupation surface overlying charcoal dated to 10,180 B.P. (Beta 124167). Bison bones recovered from this site produced radiocarbon dates of 6130 B.P. (Beta 125771). Occupations at this locality are suggested to represent short duration and intensive site use (Gough 1999, Gough and Galm 2000). Further investigations at this site were conducted in the summer of 2000 and publication of results is anticipated later this year (Stan Gough 2000 personal communication).
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