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Old 05-14-2011, 07:29 AM
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Some folks have gotten upset here when I've noted the fact that, when all people had to use was turdstone, turdstone is what they used. A little more on that

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Old 05-14-2011, 08:11 AM
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I wouldn't necessarily say people are against the idea of turdstone artifacts. The artifacts in that article actually look similar to their flint/chert counterparts and show signs of being clearly altered. People get up in arms when someone posts what is clearly a geofact. No signs of alteration by man and then make outlandish claims on how it was used. That is where the hostility surfaces... turdstone just gets pulled into the "Ummm... that's JUST A ROCK dude" reply.

Granted, a wise person said "There is more that we don't know than what we do..."

Thanks for the article Uniface .
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Old 05-14-2011, 09:22 PM
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Just in case I wasn't clear... I believe any stone type was used in time of need and on hand to fulfill a purpose/function. Not like any life form to say "darn... out of flint... guess we're screwed."
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If you could put a sharp edge on it, why not. Turdstone is commonplace in areas of Va. I amazed at some of the materials they were able to craft points out of. Argilite, Felsite, Slate, etc., to name a few. Here's three old points made of low grade stuff from central Va., construction site finds. The first is heavily weathered rhyolite, the next two are slate with a greenish patina. Definitely not lookers but I can imagine they got the job done.
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Those three pieces look to be perfect! Are you able to hazard an opinion as to type of points?
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:30 PM
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Those three pieces look to be perfect! Are you able to hazard an opinion as to type of points?
The first piece from the left is a Clovis, coa'd by Jackson. The second piece imo is a Hardaway blade or earlier I think, the hafted area is heavily ground. Third piece I think is a Palmer or Kirk.
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The first piece from the left is a Clovis, coa'd by Jackson. The second piece imo is a Hardaway blade or earlier I think, the hafted area is heavily ground. Third piece I think is a Palmer or Kirk.
Those are cool points Ghost... I was thinking clovis on the first before I read the later post!
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:57 PM
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Those are cool points Ghost... I was thinking clovis on the first before I read the later post!

Thanks man, I had a feeling it was but wanted an expert opinion to be sure. The flaking for the most part is weathered away, but you can still feel the heavy grinding on the hafted area.

Any idea on the second piece? I might send that one to Jackson too.


Sorry uni. didn't mean to derail your thread, wasn't my intention.
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