H. Erectus

[mbrown1833]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/sc..._r=1&src=rechp

Thoughts?

[uniface]

1) Find something

2) Relate it to other somethings

3) Weave both into a narrative designed to validate "evolution"

Business as usual

[paleo_joe]

I think it's cool that mine could be over a million years old. What is coolest about these "axes" is the deep desert patina. It's really no longer patina as much as crust.

The article doesn't mention the latest theory, in which these are not axes at all but phallic symbols. They are found in large bunches on the ground, almost if abandoned in mass, not discarded or lost as we see with axes that we find. And there are better forms of tools you can make with the same techniques.

[paleo_joe]

These are mainly from Algeria and the Sahara Desert which wasn't a desert at that time.

[mbrown1833]

phallic symbols huh?

[uniface]

If so, they must have had pretty strangely shaped phalli

[uniface]

Early manlike creatures may have been smarter than we think. Recent archaeological finds from the Mediterranean show that human ancestors traveled the high seas.

A team of researchers that included an North Carolina State University geologist found evidence that our ancestors were crossing open water at least 130,000 years ago. That’s more than 100,000 years earlier than scientists had previously thought.

Their evidence is based on stone tools from the island of Crete. Because Crete has been an island for eons, any prehistoric people who left tools behind would have had to cross open water to get there.

The tools the team found are so old that they predate the human species, said Thomas Strasser, an archaeologist from Providence College who led the team. Instead of being made by our species, Homo sapiens, the tools were made by our ancestors, Homo erectus.

Topic

[N2RKLOG]

Robert G. Bednarik has demonstrated seafaring was underway at 1 million years ago (The Human Condition, Springer, 2011). John Feliks has demonstrated there has been no significant change in human cognitive abilities in 400,000 years (The Graphics of Bilzingsleben, pleistocenecoalition.com, 2011). We need to reconsider what the archaeology establishment has been feeding us about evolution and early humans. Its motives and its methods are now seriously in question.

[mbrown1833]

i agree w/ n2r. i dont think crossing seas is a seriously large deal in the scheme of things. i think it's a lot more subtle than such things. and i feel like evolution on a humanistic leap can be more well thought out and not so explained. plus- have you met any cretans? ( ;

[uniface]

have you met any cretans?

When you work where I work, you can't avoid them.