Some tropical paleo

[joshuaream]

Here is a point from Chiapas Mexico (very southern Mexico) that looks paleo to me. 3.9 inches long.

Grinding goes all the way up to the widest point. (Note, I borrowed the picture on a leaf idea from David Crain who just posted a better paleo on a leaf.)

[uniface]

Nice point. And in nice shape, too.

Beyond Clovis and the Fishtail-Suwannee forms though, I'm out of my depth. A little JR explanatory commentary would be welcome !

[joshuaream]

It's an odd point. If you snapped it off at the wide part, I would have bet money that the tip was Fishtail related because of the flaking and flat cross section, and I would have wagered a similar amount that the base was Jobo/Early Lance related.

It didn't have any site information, just in a junk box of misc. pieces that came from that area.

There are types like Cougar Mountain and some of the more stemmed looking varieties of Hell Gap points that look similar, but this is so far away from those areas that even I think it's a stretch to apply those names.

[homestyle]

Nice point and thanks for posting it. I have always enjoyed seeing your stuff from south of the border, especially the Jobos. I am less inclined to think the distance is an insurmountable issue as it seems to fit the mental template for a Cougar Mountain rather well. The distance between Cougar Mountain Cave and Chiapas Mexico is about the same as the distance between the Wenatchee Clovis site and Clovis occupations in Florida. Yet, we don't hesitate to call them Clovis even when a similarly large distance is involved. If that point was from the northern Great Basin, I think it could comfortably be called a Cougar Mountain. The interesting thing is CM points are not real well represented in the record and are quite distinctive with the long ground stem and sloping shoulders.

I have always wanted a copy of the book on Cougar Mountain Cave by John Cowles and today I found this digitized copy on the web.

HathiTrust Digital Library - Cougar Mountain cave in south central Oregon.

[Greatbasinman]

Nice!!! It does look like both a Cougar Mtn. and also a Lake Mojove!!

[David Crain]

Cool Point Joshua.
Has attributes of several different paleo types. I think it would look at home in a New Mexico assemblage.
Good pictures to!
David

[Middle Mountain]

That is nice

[sage]

nice point and back ground.

[sage]

Nice point and background.

[Cannonman17]

Neat point, now let's try fluting it! Just kidding-