Pressure Flakers

[justonemore]

How about a video of you using these pieces Meetmaker? With closeups and post that on the site to support your extended statements?
I am in no way as educated as many on this site, but I have a hard time buying into these theories.

[Tdog]

Originally Posted by drdave514

I'd like to see how those were used.

Me too. Just a few pics would do (instead of video). Thanks.

[drdave514]

Tdog, I'm referring to the pieces Steve posted. If that matters. The video suggestion was for Meet.

[Steve Valentine]

Here is a web site by our member Benjamin Eble about Antler Drifts like mine. Mine are even pictured on his site. This will give some info on how they were used.


Antler Drift - Indirect Percussion Quotes

[drdave514]

Ahh, I see. I thought maybe indirect but wasn't familiar with the technique in that manner. Thanks.

[Tdog]

Originally Posted by drdave514

Tdog, I'm referring to the pieces Steve posted.

Understood. Me too.

So after looking at the link Steve posted, the "punches" or antler cylinders were used like a chisel of sorts--not necessarily like a ishi direct pressure flaker. Thanks for the clarification.

[meetmaker]

Video! I can barely get a good photograph!.......I'll see what I can do. Reading all the above I think that there are among you those who can better describe the simple operation.

[tomclark]

Steve, I've found many of the same rods, same time period, along the central west coast of FL. I'll have to look more closely for use wear on them I always thought they were gambling/game pieces...Very cool.
In regards to knapping I have NO experience but I've dug up rods of limerock and fossil rock with Kirks in one spot and with other types in other places.

Once in a great while we find these small, thin, rounded pebbles (that DO occur in FL in with "phosphate pebble" and I think are Calcite, which is much softer than chert) at worksites/chipping sites. I've found of several of these near Gainesville in with Archaic points. They show use-wear on the end(s).
Knappers have told me they are not/can't be chipping tools, I always thought they were.... maybe they have some other function in the process...?
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I hopin' now this is a Kirk Drift, muhaha! Limerock is also much softer than chert....actually many different hardnesses of limerock. The whole piece is smoothed. Gosh I have a whole bunch of rods from sites

[drdave514]

Originally Posted by meetmaker

Video! I can barely get a good photograph!.......I'll see what I can do. Reading all the above I think that there are among you those who can better describe the simple operation.

What is being described with the artifacts that Steve has shown is an indirect percussion technique that makes sense. You are describing a direct pressure technique that is not consistant with anything that is known(or seems to be known) in the artifact world. You either have a ground breaking discovery or some flaked rocks that may or may not have been used for something, just not pressure flaking.