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Old 03-13-2010, 06:31 PM
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Adena/Hopewell hilltops...

Took these pictures today while I was out hunting flint. I read somewhere once that the lower class clans were driven to live in the hilltops and lesser tributaries, while the more prestigious clans lived in the more fertile plains. This place being in the classic 2 to 3 terraces above a lesser waterway, in this case "The Raccoon" (creek) the longest creek in the U.S. It's short 1 mile of being called a river. It empties into the Ohio, and I really like hanging out around it I've found Adena and Hopewell stuff here.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:43 PM
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Those photos look cold and stormy! Any signs of spring? That area must really be lush as soon as it warms up.
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All the snow melted off finally , about four days ago we seen the last remnents of it, but the past few days before today have been near 70. Today was around 50 , my kinda weather. Yeah around here in the summer some of the woods are like jungles and our vegatation around here is pretty lush. I dig roots in the summer and get into some pretty deep vegatation, quite a bit of diversity here in the plant world. As for spring... the first sign is here that we're getting close....the frogs are chirping like crazy. Also seen some wild ginger popping out of the ground. Kinda crazy when ya think 10 days ago we had snow cover.

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The only artifact I ever found where I grew up (Western Pennsylvania) was on the edge of a hill top overlooking a deep valley. It was the base half of an early Adena point of Burlington chert. I suspect, from it being so neatly broken (the way Susquhanna Broadpoints are) it was a grave offering.
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What type base was it? Were there any mounds nearby that you know of?
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I don't remember the name of the particular variety, but do remember that Don Dragoo said it was the earliest of the Adena types -- parallel stem sides and a square base.

And yes -- it turns out that there were extensive mounds within two miles of there, but they had been leveled for industrial sites.
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Could be a few different adena types. The dickson, robbins, and your everyday run of the mill adena stemmed all had parallel stem sides.
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All three had square bases ?
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Most dickson points I've seen have mostly a rounded pointy base but there were some considered dicksons that also had a more squarish base, the robbins points are pretty much square bases but the very bottom of the basal corners tend to be a touch on the round side, robbins subtypes on the other hand are pretty squared off. , If I had to guess about an adena type with a perfectly square base I'd call it adena stemmed, or adena blade. Also the florence and kramer types tend to be on the aquare side. I guess it's kinda hard to place a type on some points when there are no others found in correlation with it .
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:48 AM
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heres one.....

Heres my favorite adena stemmed it has a square base but if youll notice the very bottom of the base corners are a tad rounded off I don't see many that are totally square but the closer to square id call stemmed, more rounded with parrallel shoulers id call robbins subtype, and the more square but base corners going vertically toward the shoulders id call a dickson.
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