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Point ID?
Hi all,
Not sure what this is, any ideas are appreciated. The point is ~2 7/16 inches long, It was found on a farm in south east Texas near the Brazos River, it was found in soil that was dug up, and i think it is some type of flint. Any thoughts on the type/ what group of people made it in what time period? I was trying to identify it by comparing it to pictures online and did not find anything quite like it. I am totally new to this though. Anyways, if you need any more info I may have left out let me now, thank you for any help. PS. I am referring to the point in the middle of the image, please disregard the rock on the left, i think that one may have been some sort of scraping tool. |
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Looks to be a Darl! Try that!
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Cool! Thanks Cluton!!
Was the Darl type made by a certain tribe, or is the type more of a time period indicator? Do you have any idea as to when or by who it could have been made? |
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Darl Culture lasted awhile! Most points we find cannot be traced to specific tribe, because Tribes where not separated until handwritten accounts by Explorers in Texas! It was too long ago with no written record! Look up Darl on Internet to get time frame and other examples! Also you may want to order some Typology books, Turner and Hester Texas book and Overstreets Price Guide for picture reference! It helps! Good luck and nice find! I find alot of Darls down here in Bastrop County, there were very fine knappers! Do some research and learn from those books mentioned above!
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I think Darl is a good call on that one as well. Turner and Hester put it as a Transitional Archaic point... Maybe 300 B.C. to about 700 A.D. or so... It's a nice example to boot... This is a great place for Texas typeologies, with lots of well informed folks... It might be worth it for you to pick up "A Field Guide to Stone Artifacts of Texas Indians" by Ellen Sue Turner and Thomas Hester... There's a couple of editions out there now and I'd suggest getting the 2011 edition as opposed to the 1999 one, even if you have to order it. I'll be getting it in a few weeks for my birthday, but I've talked to a couple of folks who have it and they've said it's much more exhaustive... I know that my old copy is "well loved." Welcome to the board by the way. Good luck and keep posting pictures, Raymond
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Good call by Raymond and Charles on all counts. Welcome to the site cbreezy.
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Thanks so much Raymond and Cluton, I'll check out that Turner and Hester book. You guys sure do know your stuff.
Thanks for the welcome Kirby! |
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Welcome to the site///c
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welcome from california, lots of typology sites on the internet, try to type it your self and then ask the experts if you are correct, youll get alot more responses if you do,, lots of people here from texas , look forward to seeing what you find
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Cbreezy, first welcome! Next dont become too overwhelmed by differencs in opinion. We are mostly all flying by the seat of our pants and sometimes the varried responses may seem confusing. The suggested field guide is a very good start. But if you get a guide with a less professional approach like the Overstreet guide then the confussion really sets in. Darl looks like a good call. It is dated to the Late/Transitional Archaic but very similar points that are thousands of years older dating back to the Early Archaic are also commonly found in Texas. They are called "Darl" in the Overstreet guide but ,and this is my opinion, not representative of the same or even related to the later Darl culture.
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